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Hold on to you hats folks, pygmy's gonna take you down a wild opinionated post ride!
First off, the article does state some of the current system's flaws and annoyances, and then says there's no way you can imagine Disney without them. Wrong. I do remember visiting Disney several times before the dreaded FP system took action, and it really wasn't as bad as you'd think. Yes, there were long lines, but they were always flowing because nobody's cutting in front of you all the time as they are now.
Secondly, they're now going to centralize the machines, which isn't that bad of an idea, To me it seems like putting on a bandaid to a shark bite victim; it might help out for a little while, but you still have a major issue to deal with. Just think of all the FP attractions in the MK, and how crowded those machines are already. Now, take all of them and cram them into one area. You'll have a 30 minute wait just to use one of these new convenient machines. I know how we can fix this problem easily! How about you can wait in line to get a quick tick(et) to skip that long line for your FP of you choice, and you can pick one of these up for FREE at the front of the park. There we go, problem solved.
If it were up to me, I'd say remove all FP, it'll save them money running those things, staffing for FP, and remove a whole lot of hassle trying to work with the system. However, I'm not the smart one calling the shots for the mouse house, so I can only hope that if they do continue on with the centralized location idea, that they'll remove FP on some attractions, and I can only hope that this doesn't mean they'll double the capacity on FP due to multiple machines. If this happens, there's no way you'll be able to survive without a FP, and if that means that you'll NEED a FP to get on, then why not just remove it all together and call it a regular line without those tickets?
AP I like your argument and I must say I agree, when I initially read this my thoughts were Disney wont do this for a reason, then I thought about all the rumors a while back about guests at the resort hotels having a priority FP so if you reduce some of the FP machines from the attractions located them centrally then only allow resort guests to use these machines who knows just a thought
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I love fast passes. and I would love to get my expedition everest fast pass on my way to the safari. I have to say that Universal Studios system is the greatest deal ever. Stay at one of their very nice hotels and your room key is your fastpass for every ride. I think Disney is too big for that, but 3 or 4 generic fast passes for each member of your group upon check in at your Disney resort would be terrific. You could pick the top rides or the ones with the longest lines and go at the most convenient time for your group.
After being there about a month ago, I have to say you have to do the parks compeltely different because of fastpass. Fast pass has made it harder to do the parks, especially park hopper. Say I want to go to AK in the morning then DHS in the afternoon. I can say goodbye to any chance of getting a fastpass for toy story mania that day and the fastpasses for RnRC and ToT would already be at like 9 at night. Great for me! (NOT!)
I was at DHS one morning AT opening.. when I got off the TSM, the fastpass was already for 3-4 and it was only 10 int he morning (ARE YOU SERIOUS??) When fastpass first came around, I thought it was excellent (probably because no one understood them or how to use them) but now I think it has become inconvenient and I think they should get rid of them. IMHO
That is really interesting. I think if it works as dreamed, then it could save families from having to run to the attraction right when they enter to grab a fast past, but if there is a long line for these it will end up ruining the time saving plan.
I read about those VIP passes they are trying in the other euro parks, I wonder how much one of those would set you back... Might be worth it? I agree that it would be neat to have something like that or certain FP machines for Resort Guests. Another perk for going to their own resort... right?
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Re: Fastpass Centralizes Location Test
I still think this is a good idea. If not for fast passes can you guess how long lines would be like? I like how Universal does their if you stay at their resorts you get in front of line. I know this wouldn't work for Disney. But they could give out a certain number of passes to their guests. Not sure if I like the idea of buying them but who know. Disney is now to a degree out for the money MHO
__________________ "We must be free not because we claim freedom, but because we practice it. "
William Faulkner
Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"/ Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night."
- Charles M. Schulz
I agree that it would be neat to have something like that or certain FP machines for Resort Guests. Another perk for going to their own resort... right?
If they start making it so complicated to get on a ride, people will just wind up frustrated and disgusted, which is the last thing Disney should want to do to people. If it becomes impossible for a person to have a decent day there without 6 months of commando planning, there will eventually be a big backlash. I already pity the people who come spur-of-the-moment without realizing what they are in for. If not for MANY hours last year of planning and learning, we would have been spinning in circles, and wouldn't have gotten anything done while we were there.
The story clearly states "The machines at the actual attractions are open too. The new centralized place is an extra possibility to get your tickets. The test machines giving the FastPass option for different attractions are an add on to give guest the change to get a ticket for the ride they want without running to the other side of the park first." There is no mention that these centralized machines will replace all other machines. If that's the case, then I'm all for it. Personally, I don't mind walking to the attraction itself in order to obtain the FastPass I want. If others choose to wait in a longer line, that's their option. Remember, you can only obtain one FastPass at a time anyway.
I still am in favor of the "all day" fast pass for all guests on property. It would work like this. From your hotel you could log into a site and select what rides you wanted to ride on the day you were going to be there. You would have to be limited to a certain number of rides that you could request on any given day. The system would take that request list and batch it with the rest of the requests for that day (let's say five per day as an example). It would then factor in the typical wait time for all rides and come up with a schedule for each person using this service. You would know at the beginning of the day which requests you were able to get and at what time. You could use that information to plan for the other rides you wanted to ride or didn't get in your request.
So as an example, I wanted to do Rock n Roller Coaster, Tower of Terror, and the Star Wars Ride. The system could schedule all of those requests for me by 9PM the night before. Once I got my ride times, I could then plan which showing of Beauty and The Beast or The Little Mermaid to take my kids to based on my pre-set times for my big rides. The rest I fill in around the set rides. It is not unlike what Fastpass is now, except, you can do the whole day and not have to get off a ride, run to the other side of the park to fast pass a second ride, and then have to run back to another part of the park to kill time waiting for your next fast pass in two hours. We could see so much more of the park and everyone would have a much more enjoyable time knowing ahead of time what they were doing. Just my vote.
ive got an idea... how bout more rides instead of the fast pass system. seriously, they could have built 1 new ride in each park (maybe more...) compared to what theyve spent on the FP system. i think the problem isnt the lines nor the FP - its the fact that thy have TOOOO many people and not enough entertainment. disney? not enough to do? i know i know - ill get bashed over this but i really feel its true. i recently noticed that rides like dumbo are shorter than they used to be to accommodate the lines.
on another note, i think most recently that more and more people are staying on property because of all the "perks" offered to onsite guest. this being said i go back to my original statement - BUILD MORE to handle the crowds instead of just rerouting them. people are becoming more and more like cattle on property. BUILD MORE TO HOLD MORE! period!
__________________ "We must be free not because we claim freedom, but because we practice it. "
William Faulkner
Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"/ Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night."
- Charles M. Schulz
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